The downsides to this vehicle is the lack of meaningful armor and poor mobility, but at the right BR it can be quite effective. like yooo, if china banned all form of videosgames in mainland we would'nt have chinese tree in the first place. Its the whole reason i started us tanks lmao. Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 (Mac), or analog from AMD/Nvidia for Mac. Many of the posts here have actually already been made into suggestions and have some have also been passed to the developers, which is good as it means Gaijin likely are already aware of the existence of some of the vehicles being proposed. Lots of surprises, as promised. If added as a premium or event it could be used as a support vehicle for new players or old players of the Italian tree. Due to this the adequate BR for the B1 Draco should be 11.0-12.0. This gap is bad enough but the M19A1 and the M42 both seem severely over-tiered. During trials with a number of different weapon types the decision was made to use the double-barreled W.L. It wouldnt have access to any sort of APFSDS but would be highly mobile on maps with roads. More information: https://warthunder.com/en/media/partnership/. Before that it was amazing, but now I think it's worse than the Ostwind 2. Little introduction What shields them from the wrath of the skies is a special type of ground vehicles self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicles, armed with quick-firing autocannons and missiles. Minimum supported resolution for the game is 720p with Metal support. < 1 2 3 > Showing 1 - 15 of 37 comments Rei [Pwner] Nov 9, 2021 @ 10:17pm Ki-Ni? Production of that modification continued through May 1943, with 1,103 units eventually built. We want an Italian anti aircraft veichles not anything else. You can see in the picture below how it would function. Armed with a quadruple 25 mm turret and backed by IR missiles and a radar system, the PGZ04A will substantially bolster the Chinese SPAA lineup at the higher ranks and . It also dosent need anything to attack ground because of your superior mass you can push everything around like a ragdoll. Take care not to be hit, and you'll have a good time. It can also be used as an SPAA just like the R3 can, so if gaijin want to they can just give it pure AA rounds. Honestly i had no idea were to put this SPAA, it wouldnt play the best due to it being quite a big target and the not the most armored thing, however the gun it has access to is very strong. Video Card: NVIDIA 660 with latest proprietary drivers (not older than 6 months) / similar AMD with latest proprietary drivers (not older than 6 months; the minimum supported resolution for the game is 720p) with Vulkan support. Nicho June 16, 2023, 9:56pm #1 Revamped and updated my post. In game this would be the top Italian SPAA and would combine the great mobility of the Centauro with the firepower of the ADATS turret making it a formidable platform both for air and ground targets. Patreon SRE SPAA Tips&Tricks SPAA (SPAA vs Air) Get to know how to lead an anticipate aircraft movement and when to know you are being baited or not. Partially enclosed, tracked, 2 x 23mm ZU-23: 374 kg/min cyclic, 977 m/s, limited by short belts and manual reload, BTR-ZD. Now lets get into my proposed line. Was going over 1000 km/h, but its not possible to drop something on them, they snipe you with 100% hit chance it seems. Just to name a few: Schwimmwagen with a 2cm Flak gun Dodge with a twin .50 9 mo. Plans for radar were made, but not installed before the project was canceled, Could fit as a Rank V before the 87 if going with the built version, or after the Type 87 if it is given radar, 4x surface-to-air missiles on a Toyota Mega Cruiser, Chinese copy of the Thales Nederland Goalkeeper 30mm CIWS, mounted on the back of a truck, 2x 35mm guns mounted on the back of a truck, Clone of the AN/TWQ-1 Avenger, armed with 8x TY90 surface-to-air missiles with a range of ~6 km, Similar to Japanese Type 93, placed before PGZ04A, 8x QW-1A surface-to-air missiles, with FLIR, laser rangefinder, search radar, and possibly a laser designator, all on a wheeled chassis, Likely before PGZ04A, depending on missile performance, 8x TY90 surface-to-air missiles, 12.7mm machine gun, radar, thermal imaging sight, laser rangefinder, all on a wheeled chassis. 2.1 Radar Display 2.1.1 Radar Target Types 2.2 Compass and Tracked Targets 3 SPAA Sensor Types 3.1 Active Radar 3.1.1 Combined Search / Track Radars (TWS - Track While Scan) 3.1.2 Radar Range Finders 3.1.3 Sector Scan Radar Mode 3.1.4 Line of Sight Scan Radar Mode 3.2 Passive Infrared and Optronic Systems 3.2.1 Using Passive Infrared Systems Lamborghini LM002 More subjectively, the best SPAA is the P7T for me because it have everything you want to demolish low-tier aviation : Fire rate, power, accuracy, an extended mag and a good mud adherence at the cost of being a truck and having a blind spot past I say 75 degrees. Yeah it is, but we've had it about 6 months longer and still no fixes, recent changes have helped a little with some but not all SPAA, 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. A single bofors gun from 4.7 to 7.3 just isnt functional, and the American Bofors carriers are underperforming by a far. 6-barreled 37mm rotary cannon with pulse doppler radar, 2x 35mm guns, with radar, on an M48 Patton chassis, Early SAM system, armed with 4x AIM-9-derived missiles. Try instead to hand guide the missiles. Archived post. As a result, tankers should have no trouble traversing the battlefield and quickly changing positions in the PGZ04A - a tactic thats well worth sticking to if you wish to remain an elusive target both for enemy ground and air units in particular! Initial versions were effectively AIM-9Ds, later versions gained all-aspect seakers and pulse dopler fuses, Likely between the M247 and LAV-AD, but depends on which missiles it gets, Up to 8x Stinger missiles + 1x .50 cal on a HMMWV chassis, 9x surface-to-air missiles on an M113 chassis, with radar, 20mm Phalanx CIWS mounted on the back of a truck, includes search and tracking radar, Upgrade to the M163, possibly even above the M247, Exactly what is says on the tin, 3x 20mm Hispano cannons on an M113A1 hull, 75mm anti-aircraft gun with radio proximity fuse and 40-45 RPM fire rate on an M19 chassis, After the M42, or possibly an event vehicle, Crusader AA Mk II turret on a Cromwell chassis, with a weaker engine. It could be a sqaudron but Gaijin has yet to add squadron AA vehicles, so if not it can be an event vehicle. Velesianus Oct 21, 2022 @ 8:56pm. M2 Halftrack fitted with a Elco PT boat turret, M113A1 with triple mount Hispano-Suiza 20mm, Could fit either as a side-grade or after the M16 MGMC, Same firepower as the M16 on a more mobile chassis, either M16 side-grade or event vehicle, Alternative to the M19, possibly just before it in the tree, 6x .50 cals on a Chaffee hull, mostly enclosed turret (especially on the T77E1), Alternative to the M19, possibly after it due to increased survivability, 1x 40mm on an M3 Lee hull, fully enclosed turret, Half the firepower of the M19, but much better survivability, either alternate to M19 or Event vehicle, Same firepower as the M19, but much worse mobility and survivability, likely event vehicle, 40mm Bofors + 2x .50 cals on a Sherman chassis, Slightly worse firepower than the M19 but better survivability, best after the M19 in the tree, 4x .60 cal on the T41 Light Tank hull (what would eventually become the M41 Walker Bulldog), also fitted with tracking radar, With the tracking radar, it would behave similarly to the M163, but the firepower is an unknown quantity here (no .60 cals in game yet). Something is clearly missing. Featuring a devastating arsenal and superb mobility, the LAV-AD will soon join the fight in top ranked ground battles, arriving in War Thunder as part of the next major update . As such, the US Army submitted a request for the development of a mobile anti-aircraft vehicle to defend themselves against enemy aircraft. Imo these types of paper vehicles that are grounded in reality do not harm the game, i want to remind you that this game as listed by gaijin is realistic not 100% historical. "The ZU-23-2 has been mounted on regular BTR-Ds for use as fire support for infantry sections", apparently there is a new version in the Russian Army. Learn more about our. Video Card: Radeon Vega II or higher with Metal support. Fully enclosed, tracked, with well armored hull. It was one of the first American tanks to be released with the American ground tree in Update 1.45 "Steel Generals". War Thunder - The list of the upcoming Japanese aircraft - Facebook All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. http://warthunder.com/en/news/674/current 654654 159 Comments 38 Shares Share especially with most bases near-ish to AFs. The high rate of fire, good handling/mobility, and turret traverse make the M13 a wonderful hit-and-run tank. This isn't as hard as it seems, as helicopters mostly hover and without the RWR won't know where the missile is coming from. Likely placed before the M163, or else an event vehicle, Twin 35mm guns on the M548 tracked carrier system, designed by Ares Inc for export to Iran. Ideally it should be placed in a theoretical 5th line around the BR of 6.0-7.0 with major changes. The higher in br you go, the harder it gets (once you reach radar spaa, they never miss). This is one of the most popular SPAAs that the Italian community wants around this tier, i added this vehicle because of the extremely powerful main weapon it has, this isnt a normal bofors cannon, but its the licence produced improved version that Italy had used mainly on its ships. US ADATS. Therefore, rely on the exceptional maneuverability, handling, and speed to either stay in cover or flank weaker tanks. 4 x 14.5mm KPV: 148 kg/min cyclic, 995 m/s, BTR-50 ZPU-4. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. The modified PGZ-95 was subsequently first shown off to the public in a military parade in 1999. This one didnt have the staple cannon present on the American ADATS, so only missiles. It was one of the first American tanks to be released with the American ground tree in Update 1.45 "Steel Generals" . Its a little controversial as a pick but sadly Italy doesnt have many SPAAs that can realistically be added. 300 rounds, max 70 degrees elevation. In the late 1980s, Chinese engineers began work on developing a self-propelled anti-air vehicle in order to meet the demand of the PLA for a replacement for towed AA batteries, capable of engaging low flying air targets. The PGZ04A is soon arriving to the top ranks of the Chinese ground forces tree with the release of the next major War Thunder update. In order to prevent this from happening, set the range of the radar to 16 km instead of 10 km to detect any side-climbing planes to prioritize before they climb above the maximum radar elevation range. The M13 MGMCs joined the US army's AA battalions. they forgot to mention coelian or their repair costs Since this version was going to mount the prototype turret of the SIDAM it also makes it much better than the production version as it could have access to a low level night/thermal vision device. It would be quite nimble and i can definitely see it at around a BR of 10.3-11.0. You can kill the helis and planes as they spawn before they get a hoard going although the mig27s are very difficult to cou ter if the pilot has even half a brain cell. Video Card: Radeon Vega II or higher with Metal support. [Development] LAV-AD: Revolving Firepower - News - War Thunder People who play the American tech tree, its the same gun on the M113 Vads. With the M13, the armour is very thin, and the lack of sloping makes the M13 an extremely easy target. The .50 calibre machine guns are mounted in a Maxson M33 Twin Mount. The new and improved SPAA line for Italy features many new vehicles. The vehicle should be lowered in BR since better SPAA are availible at lower BRs so 7.7 BR would be ideal. In 1941 the Diamond T(WMC) M2 half-track, mass produced by the White Motor Company, was selected as the base for the new model. You see if Gaijin finds a way to keep things grounded and also being in relation to that nation then theyll go for that option. It would also offer a completely different gameplay style compared to the American ADATS or the Canadian ADATS. The M2s have exceptional AAA ability, take use of their tendency to set opponents alight. Cawws, Don't you America players have more child soldiers to shoot in afghanistan? BR would be 3.7-4.0. Category:Anti-aircraft vehicles - War Thunder Wiki However, against better-armoured tanks such as the T-26 or M3 Lee, always stay out of the line of fire and try to avoid tanks such as these altogether. But tbh, they can spot you even if you fly low. But the chinese tech tree needs a lot of high and top tier vehicles like Jaguar, Type 88, Type 85, Type 90/MBT-2000, Type 98, Type 08-Varianten, PTL-02 mit 105mm, cmon guys after 2 years this potential big tech tree have just a couple of vehicles. Depiction ofany real-world weapon orvehicle inthis game does not mean participation ingame development, sponsorship orendorsement byany weapon orvehicle manufacturer. In real life this mightve been a failed project but in warthunder it is a completely different story. I Hope You Enjoy My Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/hunter_i86My PayPal:https://paypal.me/HunteRi86?locale.x=en_USWar Thunder is free to play game, if you . Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Would you like to have the R3 T20 changing role (from spaa to light tank) and receiving APDS, NVD and the stab back? M113 HS-820 (Tech tree) Only 139 units of the M13 GMC were deployed overseas by the army. Hence, always remain on the lookout for enemy aircraft. Soviet SPAAs / War Thunder - YouTube You're right about them not showing up on thermals too well. (The gattling/mini gun 1, is it good?) It absolutely shreds tanks and planes. Honorable mentions (vehicles that can be added but i didnt add to the line or vehicles which arent super needed). In fact, having only plain steel armor plates of up to 15 mm thickness, the PGZ04A is at best protected only against shrapnel and machine gun fire, while anything more powerful than that will make short work of its lightly protected chassis. By Partially enclosed, wheeled BTR-50 ZPU-4. OF-40 SPAA (Cheetah PRTL/ATAK-35) (Tech Tree) Although i can see people feeling a bit iffy about this addition, i believe its needed, i decided to add the OF-24 MK3 because this variant of the vehicle features the same armament of the previous SPAA, but instead of having 1 RH202, it has access to 2 of them. However, due to the size of this vehicle, it can take ATGMs from helis occasionally, and can sometimes even eat APFSDS. Could fit before the Stormer HVM, or foldered underneath it, Sidegrade for Staghound AA, possibly below it in the tree, otherwise event vehicle, Would be similar to the Lvtdgb m/40, but with less armor, 3x 20mm Polsten cannons on a Crusader, but without the enclosed turret, Side-grade to Crusader AA Mk II, or else event vehicle, Canadian modification of the Ford F60L truck to carry 3x 20mm Polsten cannons, Canadian modification of a Ford CMP truck to carry 4x 20mm Polsten cannons, Ratel fitted with a BAU-23x2 turret, sold by South Africa, Similar to the BTR-ZD, so placed similarly, The CCKW 353 truck with a quad 20mm Flak 38 turret, Would fill a similar role as the R3 T20, depending on speed, 2x 20mm guns on the Panhard AML armored car, Another Panhard M3 variant, this time with 2x 20mm guns and optional radar, Early radar option, before the AMX-30 DCA, AMX 10 armored car with twin 30mm cannons and radar, VAB armored car with the same twin 20mm turret as the M3 VDA, but with 6x Mistral SAM launchers added on (there's also a variant without the missiles), Around Roland 1, could go either before or after depending on performance, 4x 20mm cannons on an Sd.Kfz 7 half-track, with either an armored or, Either below the Sd.Kfz 251/21 or as a side-grade (depending on version), 1x 37mm cannon on a Pz IV chassis with minimal armor, Below the Ostwind, likely as an event vehicle, 1x 37mm cannon on a Panzer III/StuG III hull, around a dozen built, Effectively a sidegrade to the Ostwind, either foldered or as event vehicle, 4x 30mm guns on a Panzer IV chassis, effectively an up-gunned Wirbelwind, 2 prototypes believed to be built, Either between Ostwind I and II, or after the Ostwind II, Basically a German version of the Falcon, likely before the Gepard, 2x 30mm cannons with search and tracking radar, Either before or as a sidegrade to the Gepard, 2x 30mm guns, designed as an export turret. 1 Description 2 General info 2.1 Survivability and armour 2.2 Mobility 2.3 Modifications and economy 3 Armaments 3.1 Main armament 3.1.1 Ammunition 3.1.2 Ammo racks 4 Usage in battles 4.1 Countering Vikhr-equipped helicopters 4.2 Countering advanced planes 4.3 Pros and cons 5 History 5.1 Devblog 6 Media 7 See also 8 External links Description 1st generation gunner thermals allow the FlaRakRad to track targets without the use of radar easier. In War Thunder, the PGZ04A will be a new SPAA vehicle awaiting tankers at the top ranks of the Chinese ground forces tree in the next major update coming soon to the game. Replacing the production SIDAM-25 in the tree is the C-13 SIDAM. A better option in my opinion would be to add a Brazilian subtree, which would include a Marder Roland. yes yes, i hope next dev will be any vehicle that you wouldn't like again))))). Improves visibility by enhancing natural light or active illumination. Centauro ADATS is not even a paper vehicle. OS: Most modern 64bit Linux distributions. Fully enclosed, wheeled. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. The Bofors rate of fire is poor and the penetration on the AP ammo is not particularly . 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. Adding Skink and Sperry Vigilante could really go a long way to helping the allied teams defend themselves from the frankly ridiculous German CAS. Italy used various American Half-Tracks post war, mainly with the Maxon mount, although i list this as a premium it could easily also be put as an event. There are 5 mm plates inside the rear compartment (see image). While the army version of the FlaRakPz 1 self-propelled air defense system was equipped with a tracked chassis, the air defense services and the German naval forces settled on wheeled chassis for AA systems for airfield protection. With respect to the Centauro ADATS, while Italy does need a top SPAA, it should NOT be a paper tank.
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